Release Date: April 17, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Positive Points
- Gross rental income increased by 3.6% in Q1 2025, driven by like-for-like growth and new asset contributions.
- The company achieved a 9% overall rental uplift, with significant increases in Paris City (17%) and Paris CBD (27%).
- Occupancy is expected to improve gradually over the coming quarters, indicating positive future prospects.
- The student housing disposal project is on track and expected to close in the first half of 2025 as scheduled.
- Gecina Nom (GECFF, Financial) confirmed its guidance for 2025, demonstrating confidence in its business model and future performance.
Negative Points
- Like-for-like rental growth in other locations was down by 25%, indicating challenges outside prime areas.
- The company faces tenant departures in certain locations, impacting cash flow negatively.
- The investment market remains less liquid outside of Paris and for larger schemes, posing challenges for asset allocation.
- There are rising concerns about increasing vacancy rates in Paris CBD, which could impact future leasing activities.
- Indexation is expected to decrease progressively, potentially affecting future rental income growth.
Q & A Highlights
Q: Can you provide more details on the visibility to increase occupancy in Boulogne and other non-central areas? Also, how do you see the investment appetite in your markets given the changing global environment?
A: Pennyard Ortega, CEO: We are progressing well with leasing in Boulogne, having signed several leases with excellent companies. While it's more challenging than in the CBD, it's proceeding according to plan. Regarding investments, there's decent appetite for central locations, though the market is less liquid outside Paris and for larger schemes. We are monitoring both buying and selling opportunities to optimize asset allocation.
Q: Your like-for-like rental growth in other locations was down 25%. Can you elaborate on the reversion in Paris renewals and discuss the Solstice building acquisition and related CapEx?
A: Pennyard Ortega, CEO: We faced tenant departures in some locations, impacting cash flow, but it's a small portion of our portfolio. We don't comment on acquisitions before they occur, but we actively monitor the market. Regarding indexation, it's decreasing and should stabilize around 2%, with limited impact on 2025 cash flow due to the lag in inflation effects.
Q: Do you plan to dispose of around €700 million in residential assets, and what is your target leverage ratio? Also, what are your thoughts on the rising vacancy concerns in Paris CBD?
A: Pennyard Ortega, CEO: We have no specific disposal targets but manage our balance sheet conservatively. We monitor opportunities for buying and selling. Despite macroeconomic challenges, Paris CBD still has low vacancy rates, and our portfolio occupancy grew in Q1, indicating strong leasing demand.
Q: What is your strategy regarding asset disposals and leverage management?
A: Pennyard Ortega, CEO: We aim to maintain a safe balance sheet and manage disposals opportunistically. We focus on optimizing our asset allocation and have consistently reduced debt over the past years. The rating agencies focus more on LTV due to the high liquidity of our assets.
Q: How do you view the current leasing environment in Paris CBD given the geopolitical tensions and macroeconomic factors?
A: Pennyard Ortega, CEO: Despite these challenges, we see strong leasing activity in Paris CBD, with significant reversion and low vacancy rates. Our Q1 results reflect this positive trend, and we remain confident in the market's resilience.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
