RLI Corp (RLI) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript Highlights: Strong Performance with Notable Gains in Investments and Underwriting

Discover how RLI Corp achieved robust earnings growth and strategic gains in the first quarter of 2024.

Summary
  • Operating Earnings Per Share: $1.89, driven by strong underwriting and investment income growth.
  • Net Earnings Per Share: $2.77, influenced by realized and unrealized gains on investments.
  • Combined Ratio: 78.5, compared to 77.9 last year.
  • Revenue Growth: Top line grew 13% across nearly all products.
  • Investment Income Growth: Increased by 21%.
  • Operating Cash Flow: Reported at $70 million for the quarter.
  • Realized Gains: Totalled $6 million.
  • Unrealized Gains on Equity Portfolio: Totalled $45 million.
  • Book Value Per Share: Increased by 8% to $33, adjusting for dividends.
  • Comprehensive Earnings Per Share: $2.50, affected by recent declines in bond prices.
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Release Date: April 23, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Can you give us a sense of what loss frequency and severity looks like for the personal umbrella business considering the growth that you're generating?
A: (Jennifer Leigh Klobnak - COO) Loss frequency has remained fairly stable in the personal umbrella book. We use industry loss trends for our analysis, which tend to be higher than our actual results. We are cautious and continuously analyze rate needs by state to ensure adequate coverage for our exposure.

Q: I wanted to pivot to the expense ratio piece. It didn't seem to move much with casualty, but there was some movement in the quarter in property. Is there anything worth revisiting in the Q&A portion of this call to talk to us about trends in the expense ratio?
A: (Todd Wayne Bryant - CFO) The property segment benefited from a volume perspective due to revenue growth, which is noticeable in the property expense ratio. There's an overall increase in incentive-related amounts affecting all segments, but no significant trend changes in the property segment outside of the revenue increase.

Q: Can you provide an updated perspective on how retentions look for this year and how your reinsurance costs are shaping up?
A: (Jennifer Leigh Klobnak - COO) The reinsurance market is becoming more reasonable. We increased our retention on surety due to economic sense. Costs for reinsurance are up slightly due to additional CAT limit purchases, but we expect a more flat rate change going forward.

Q: I think I heard you mention increased conservatism in loss picks. Was that specific to construction GL or are you reflecting that across the casualty book?
A: (Todd Wayne Bryant - CFO) Our approach is generally cautious across the board, not just in construction. The underlying loss ratio on casualty is not significantly different from last year, but we are vigilant, especially with the tail on our excess.

Q: Can you talk about maybe some nonrate actions that you've gone through in the property book to address the convective storm and non-catastrophe activity?
A: (Jennifer Leigh Klobnak - COO) We focus on coverage and deductibles alongside rate adjustments. We analyze each loss scenario to decide on coverage terms and have made minor adjustments to clauses like water damage. We're cautious about growth in areas like the Midwest due to underpricing in the habitational market.

Q: Just on NII, I guess I would have thought there would be a little bit more expansion quarter-over-quarter. Is there anything kind of one-off in this quarter's number? And way to think about the full year.
A: (Aaron Paul Diefenthaler - CIO & Treasurer) There's nothing unusual in this quarter's NII. Operating cash flow is typically lighter in Q1 due to reinsurance renewals and bonus payments. We expect it to pick up in the rest of the year, sticking to high-quality assets in our investment strategy.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.